🚨Irish fans are calling for a replay as footage emerges, surely this has to be looked at..?

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What a cracking weekend of rugby and what a game that was on Saturday night between both Ireland and New Zealand, sadly someone has to lose and it was the Irish that failed to reach a semi-final of a Rugby World Cup one again.

Irish fans have noticed that one of the All Blacks try’s might have had a forward pass in it though.. Take a look below;

MORE HERE: 🚨Brian O’Driscoll says Johnny Sexton will be kicking himself after vital mistake 😢

Argentina will take on New Zealand next..

South Africa will face England next and don’t rule out the English in getting a result. This English team have been building and building and there could be one big game in them. There is quality in this English team, will England topple the Springboks and get back to the final again?

It’s going to make for a good watch again next weekend.

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        1. If you watch the actual players, the outside man is half a pace ahead of the man on the inside. You say you’ve looked at it from every angle. Compare the white T (thats ahead of the try line) to where the players are and watch. The outside is ahead of the inside when the ball is passed, which the ball is going back not forward. If that’s a forward pass, then every pass must be a forward pass. The inside man did not have to turn to catch the ball.

          1. It’s way forward, I saw that live watching. I couldn’t believe it wasn’t checked. But then it’s NZ so only some of the rules apply to them. Namibia or Portugal that would have been looked at.
            No matter it’s over and NZ go marching on

          1. That’s the way I see it to. The passer is in line with the line when he passes the ball, and the player collecting it is still behind the line when he does so, this means that the ball had to travel back the way…q¹q

      2. You have no clue what the rules of rugby are do you? It is very common knowledge that the ball can go forward as long as it goes backwards out of the hands. Rugby balls do strange things when passed by players running at pace, it’s called physics, you should learn about it some time.

        1. In this case it seems forward from the hands. Warrants inspection at least. but Wayne Barnes never give Ireland anything significant unless he has to.

          1. Only two yellow cards and a penalty try, you guy’s need to get over yourselfs and accept that the better team won on the day.

          3. Sad that supporters of such mighty side resort to whining when they lose. You may be sure that many controversial decisions or non decisions are made every week at every level of this fabulous gladatorial sport. Hey get over it. It is impossible for any referee to make every decision they make which will satisfy all sides ,100% of the time.

        2. For one thing rugby doesn’t have rules, it has laws. For someone who ‘has a clue’ I’m surprised you got that wrong.
          That aside, the ball not only travelled forward but it was clearly forward out of the hands. I saw that in real time and the replays from different angles confirmed it.

          2. U wish it was forward just get over it n watch the all blacks make the finals this weekend hv gd day😁😁😂🤣UP THE ABs

          3. Don’t be so childish…There is nothing that can be done post match anyway, Four wasted kickable penalties, two yellows and a penalty try from a ref that never gives the Irish anything unless compelled to and still victory eluded you!

          1. You are quite wrong to imply that 40,000 Irish fans have no idea reference the laws of rugby and you are also quite wrong to suggest that Irish fans en masse are complaining about the result or the so called controversial pass!

        4. That’s correct! The speed of the guy passing the ball plus the velocity it travels can result in the ball drifting forward.

          1. Then by your own definition it is a forward pass. Take a look at where it is released (behind the 5 metre line) and where it is caught (in front of the 5 metre line). If that isn’t forward then what is?

        6. Contrary to what you are saying it was a forward pass that lead to the try another howler from Barnes

        7. What???
          The ball can go forward as long as it goes backwards from the hand…. You mean if a gust of wind pushes it forward?

      1. Pasted before the 5M line received after the 5M line. you’re right the 5M line is the gage. It was a forward pass!!

        1. So you’re another person that’s still learning the rules of rugby? Backwards out of the hands sound familiar to you? If not then please go back and study the laws of rugby before going online to comment about your biased frustration

          1. Dont know why everyone is saying sour grapes I’m Irish living in Ireland and haven’t meet a single person who is calling for a replay or even complaining about this. We understand things happen in games you win some you lose some. Although we a disappointed we realise we were beaten end of story. The only thing that I am hearing is that it was seeded wrong. Imagine if it had of been done right the 2 games from our side would have been the semi finals and an amazing advert for rugby. The 2 quarter finals were some of the best rugby in a long time

        3. No, according to the rules of rugby, it is not the gage. Remember that after the pass is made the ball has forward momentum so lines on the field which is stationery can not be used to determine a forward pass. The pass looks flat and then travels forward with momentum. Correct decision. I wanted Ireland to win as well.

        4. Absolutely, starts behind it and ends up in front of it. Isn’t that the definition of a forward pass?

          1. No. If you run and throw the ball back over your head it will still land in front of where you passed it. If your definition was correct then virtually every pass would be considered forward. That’s why they Ave the ruling on backwards out of the hands. Where it ends up is irrelevant.

          2. Nope, that isn’t the definition at all. A heck of a lot of passes end up in front of where it is passed due to momentum. This is a flat ball but in no way can you rule that forward. If the ball had to end up behind where it is passed then any passes at high speed would have to be passed almost directly backwards to avoid it travelling forward.

            If you Google ‘forward pass explained’ and watch the short video at the top by Total Rugby you will see you are wrong. It explains it really clearly with handy graphics.

      2. Ball is passed behind the 5m line and caught in front of it, if that’s your gauge how is it not forward? Just one of those things in sport, sometimes mistakes happen. Congrats to the ABs and good luck for the weekend. Fingers crossed for a NZ v South Africa final.

    3. I wonder if they would have talked about this so called forward pass had Ireland won🤣

      Get over it and move on👍
      The best team won.

      1. No way was that a forward pass. Ref called it correctly.
        Can someone tell what the England v South Africa result was as the article says New Zealand play England next.
        I must have dozed off.

    4. Yes, the ball does indeed travel forward, but it is not a forward pass. The ball leaves the passer at the same forward velocity as the passer himself, and it is propelled backwards. At all times after the ball is passed it is behind the passer. The receiver catches the ball behind the passer. It is not a forward pass.

      1. Totally agree. This is the ruling on forward passes, and therefore this was not a forward pass. Split second timing, perfect execution.

      2. It’s very apparent that the northern hemisphere fans have no clue about the laws of physics 🤣🤣 good news is they have 4 years to study them and learn what “backwards out of the hands” means

        1. Nothing forward about that pass you obviously don’t understand the laws of the game and England take on South Africa next not the all blacks, looks like journalism just isn’t for you

        2. I say old bean not every northern hemisphere chap donchaknow? Rather unsporting of you to bally label us all in the same canoe, it was only those in green stirring the potties……..

      3. Please show me where the person catching the ball is behind the passer when he catches it? He is about a metre in front.

    5. Cry Cry Cry yous lost you losera get over it and take it like men not European sookies get on the plane and fark off home

    6. How could that possibly be a forward pass. A visit to Specsavers might be appropriate. Stop clutching at straws. The receiver was behind the passer on receipt of the ball. It’s quite clear from the 5m line and the players’ positions.

    7. Your players didn’t think so and they were right in line with it get over it and go home gracefully

    8. The ball always goes forward, relative to the ground, when both players are running at pace. When the last pass was made the receiver was slightly behind the thrower. At worst it was marginal.

    9. That doesn’t mean it’s a forward pass. What matters is the relative locations of the player making the pass and the player recieving it at the moment the ball is released. They are LEVEL, so it it’s not a forward pass.

      Besides which, the referee said it wasn’t, and he is the sole arbiter of fact, so it wasn’t.

    10. Even though the ball travels forward with the momentum of the ball carrier, it leaves the passers hand in a backwards/flat direction. Read the rules about passing and you will not dispute this pass. Understand the rules before passing opinion.

    11. That is what the 3rd umpire and their whole 5 or 6 of them are there to do. They have an aerial camera, and God knows how many fixed and mobile camera operators.

    12. The ball can go forward . BUT The initial pass went backwards .but the inertia energy behind the ball still has an effect on the ball flight path as its still travelling at the same speed as the runner . So it’s not actually classed as a forward pass. For a forward pass the has to be INFRONT of the hand passing it .

    2. The player passing the ball is clearly in front of the player receiving the pass…If anything its a flat pass but not forward

    3. Nope, that isn’t the definition at all. A heck of a lot of passes end up in front of where it is passed due to momentum. This is a flat ball but in no way can you rule that forward. If the ball had to end up behind where it is passed then any passes at high speed would have to be passed almost directly backwards to avoid it travelling forward. If you Google ‘forward pass explained’ and watch the short video at the top by Total Rugby you will see you are wrong. It explains it really clearly with handy graphics.

      1. That’s because a lot of ‘fans’ and quite a few players don’t understand what a forward pass is. World Rugby’s website quotes a certain Wayne Barnes: “It’s not about the direction that the ball eventually ends up, it’s about the direction it’s travelling in as it leaves the hands. So, when a TMO comes in, the referees are looking at the hands and the ball.”

  5. England don’t play New Zealand next, they play South Africa. If every mistake made by a Ref was written about by you. You would have a series of books. Unfortunately, it happens.

  6. If the runner passes the ball backwards in practice it still ends up going forward (looking at the pitch) as the runner and the receiver are in motion. Therefore looking at the pitch lines is not only senseless but also exposes lack of understanding of basic physics. To those still not following – forward pass is when the player receiving the ball is (at the exact moment of the pass) ahead of the player passing the ball to him. So you can use the lines to judge the position of the two, and only for that.

    1. The passer and receiver were too close together for this to be a factor. It was certainly as forward as the famous pass that won for France against NZ in a past RWC, for which NZ fans have hated Barnes ever since. Perhaps he was just trying to even the score…

      1. They’re 4 metres away from each other. If you genuinely believe this is a forward pass there are about 100 more in this game alone.

        This is a handy way to explain it to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg

        Not sure how you can come to the conclusion that Wayne was trying to ‘even the score’ when there were 2 yellow cards, a penalty try and multiple infringements by Ireland at the breakdown in the final 5 minutes.

  7. Unfortunately no Irish player whent to say forward pass even though that seemed to be the case

  8. I called it as soon as it happened. What amazes me is that, given how many incidents are scrutinised to the point of insanity, there was no TMO review of this – no one considered it for a moment. Just like the charge-down of the French conversion, where the winger made several strides before it was legal to do so. Easy to review, but it’s clear that only some sides get their scores and actions reviewed, while others seem immune…As for replays – well, maybe the next RWC…

    1. How about crooked feeds.
      Also players,are regularly in front of the kicker at kick offs and in one of the matches yesterday the hoover was clearly in the field of play when throwing in.
      However, 4 of the best matches for years.

  9. Actually, the real news is that Brian O’Driscoll has just remembered there was a forwards pass in the run up to a try by the AB’s in their quarter final in 2019, and wants a replay please…

  10. I was surprised at the time that Tom Foley the video ref did not review the play. I was more surprised that Wayne Barnes failed to pick it up.

    However, it is water under the bridge now and we have two hopes of getting the result overturned. BOB Hope and NO HOPE. 😢

  14. This looks ok to me and is clutching at straws.
    The penalty on whitelock which led to cody taylors yellow and penalty try was a complete load of chit and there many instances throughout the game where Barnes kept Ireland in the game. The game shouldnt of even been close if it wasnt for Barnes. NZ would of won easily.

  15. There was a blatant forward pass by Ireland too , seconds before NZ’s first yellow card . No good crying over spilt milk . NZ 28 Ire 24 great result

  16. It’s over now I sure U looking for something that’s only one thing in the game but maybe if everyone looked over the hole game we could find more a game is a game U lossed so move on.no point watching it again to pick little this out of a game.nz played one down for 20 mins of the game so if they were that good why didn’t they bet NZ by more points.nz were better on the day so suck it up and see in at the next WC.

  17. Sore losers far more calls went against the All Blacks, Ireland got away with forward passes, head high on Ardie that didn’t even get a mention or look at, And that Bundie soccer style Hollywood WTF was that?😂🤣.
    Hate to break it to you guys but we aren’t even playing our best footy, Hahahaha UP THE ALL BLACKS!!!

  18. The All Black pass was flat, at worst, but more likely backwards. Both AB players were in fast forward motion. Ioane had his left passing hand in front of the ball as he released the pass to Fainga’anuku. Ioane continued to stay ahead, of the passed ball and the pass receiver as it traveled across to Fainga’anuku. All of these ‘indicators’ demonstrate that it was highly unlikely that the pass was forward and/or that it could be adjudged so. By comparison, a missed Irish forward pass immediately before Smith was yellow carded, the Irish passer was essentially stationary having been tackled (no forward velocity vector) and the ball travels forward, ahead, of the passing player. The pass was received, I would estimate, 1m ahead of where the pass was made from. Wayne Barnes was exactly in line with the pass and completely unobstructed (check the video highlights on Youtube). Unfortunately there are many people out there, including ref’s, TMO’s and commentators who have no appreciation or understanding of the physics/mathematics of motion and the key indicators the give away what is and what isn’t forward. You certainly cannot base your judgements off the white lines on the ground and where a ball is released and caught if the players are in forward motion.

  19. Obviously, some Irish fans aren’t as rules-savvy as Kiwis. By the latest definition of “forward pass”, this is not. The ball is actually allowed to travel forward. Please consult the current rugby laws, instead of talking about interpretations a generation old.

  22. Andrew Porter was offside and hands in the ruck with Barnsey watching and got away with that. Shit happens every game. It sucks to lose and is easy to lash out when your team does. It’s a beautiful thing!

  28. The TMO is constantly assessing footage and all plays on the pitch regardless of whether the ref asks for it or not. That was categorically NOT a forward pass and it would have been picked up instantly had it been in question. The better team won on the night and it’s disrespectful to take on the football attitude and try and make

  29. The ball relative to the pitch went forward but relative to the 2 players was back. So long as the player receiving is behind then it’s not a forward pass – relative motion – just physics. Anyway the decision on the pitch is final, once the try is awarded and the kick is taken, the try cant be taken away. The 3rd ref would have said something as he would have checked. Ireland were magnificent but someone has go lose

  30. Benchwarmers – what a bunch of muppets you are! I’m nearly sure England are playing South Africa next not New Zealand ✊

  33. The best Ireland team ever they say but couldn’t even beat an average all blacks team who had to play with 14 men for 60 minutes. Don’t be Salty Irish fans just accept you weren’t good enough on the day. God save the king.

  35. Shame we’re focusing on that rather than the marvelous rugby on display – from both teams. Thought there were several dubious decisions in the game (Porter’s entry from off-side that led to a break and a try for example). They went both ways though. Celebrate your awesome team and the mountains they climbed to be #1 in the world…

  36. Ireland stop crying ,you sound like a bunch of children,SA have been playing against referees their whole existence, we learned how to deal with it,so wipe the snot off your nose and grow up

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